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Post by [adb1256-DAVE] on Nov 30, 2008 22:47:40 GMT -1
Hi Lads I have a 3mtr length of 8mm strong elasticated cord attached to spring type carabina's at each end, the larger clips to the strap on the PFD, the smaller to the eyelet behind the seat. this can be easily removed quickly, and stretches enough should it be caught up without injury......Dave
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Post by THURSOMAN on Dec 1, 2008 9:16:42 GMT -1
Another interesting point here. Is elasticated cord going to be safer to use? Is it less or more likely to tangle round you tightly?
Any comments on this would be appreciated.
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Post by SEAJUNKY on Dec 1, 2008 9:49:47 GMT -1
Dave I have to ask, do you carry a safety knife?
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Post by fredmoore on Dec 2, 2008 18:56:30 GMT -1
hope the kayakking is going well since I saw you at prestatyn.It is the strongest tide rip I have fished in on the big tides there,I would imagine similar to the swellies.the idea is right to let out plenty of anchor rope,but this will not stop the yak being buffeted side to side,which as you know is a bit disconcerting.It has occured to me about roping up to the yak but not to sure what would happen with the strong rip running into your body,will it force you under?The superb fishing at prestatyn will get me out there on a regular basis,but I will not be going out there on a tide bigger than 28ft on my own.fortunately the fishing is good on smaller tides as well although i think you need a good tide for the best of the bass and smoothhound run.bagged up last winter with dabs and whiting and the odd codling on really small tides23-24 ft with only a 2 oz lead needed to hold bottom to improve the sport.this is an ideal venue for a meet and I am surprised it has not been used so far.see you soon out there dave
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Post by firefighter on Dec 2, 2008 20:50:04 GMT -1
Hi Seajunky, yes, I carry a safety knife attached to my PFD, and have pondered about attaching myself to the kayak via a line, but like Fred has suggested, would it pull you under in a strong rip?.
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Post by JIMBOB on Dec 2, 2008 22:05:16 GMT -1
The idea of attaching myself to the yak doesn't appeal to me one bit, in the event of a capsize it could spell danger, and the thought of using an elasticated cord sends shivers down my back.
Supposing the cord gets wrapped around your neck as you capsize then the current drags you, your yak is at anchor and the cord cord tightens. I'm afraid even with the best knife in the world you would stand little chance of surviving that. After all you can replace a kayak.
Personally I think that fishing at anchor from a kayak in a large tidal run is something only the very experienced should do, and never alone. If in doubt stay out!
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Post by SEAJUNKY on Dec 2, 2008 22:31:45 GMT -1
Dave
I think that if there is the slightest posibility of it pulling you under, then it should be avoided at all cost. I just wouldn't feel safe under those conditions.
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Post by THURSOMAN on Dec 3, 2008 20:37:57 GMT -1
Would it have a similar effect as if being towed by a boat??? Lol, What is that effect? In my minds eye I reckon it would force you under but have no idea. Can anyone give us some clarity here please? Personally I always fish on the drift and have often wondered what if I loose the kayak for some reason in the tide. I have considered tying myself in some way to the kayak assuming that we will both drift together instead of against each other. I also thought that there was no need for a hefty rope etc to attach yourself to the kayak making cutting much quicker. Again I have no experience in this. I must admit that jimbob's senario with the rope around your neck in a fast tide while at anchor is very scary indeed! If there are other guys using this technique whether on the drift or anchoring could you perhaps relate your experiences? Chris
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Post by v8rob on Dec 6, 2008 15:00:16 GMT -1
I live and fish the Solent area where there's quite a tidal flow. I always fish at anchor, mainly at night, and the thought of falling off the yak a night and losing the yak as a result doesn't appeal to me. I invested in a 3m longboard 'ankle' leash which I clip on up front next to the hatch. A couple of coils are kept stowed beneath my leg so there's nothing loose.
As for falling in, well i'm not going to leave the yak behind, I always anchor from the rear so I'll be pulled away from the anchor warp. I have little up front past my hips so there's no real snagging hazards.
As for being pulled under, I'm wearing a PFD and a drysuit with a fair amount of air contained within, it doesn't matter how well you burp it. I reckon it'll take a heck of a flow to pull you under, something like a raging river!. The only time I've seen my 8" anchor buoy pulled under was in an 7-8 knot flow off an Anglesey headland, and it doesn't really compare to a 6' person in a drysuit with PFD.
Worst comes to worst, I always have a kinfe handy on my PFD.
I only attach the leash once outside the 'surf zone', and removing it the same prior to recovery. I'd not feel happy fishing at night, where I do, without one.
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Post by THURSOMAN on Dec 6, 2008 18:27:34 GMT -1
Rob, I'm very interested in this. What sort of material is your leash made from? Do you attach it to your ankle? Thanks.
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Post by v8rob on Dec 6, 2008 20:38:59 GMT -1
I'm guessing it's nylon coated rope with brass swivels at each end, and a velco fastener to go around your ankle. I had the velcro extended as it was too short with my dysuit, layers and wetsuit boots on. So it actually goes around my ankle/wetsuit boot. Takes seconds to put on or off. Something like the one shown below: I've tried looking for a photo of my own, nothing great though. The photo below shows how it fits to my right ankle and you can see where it attaches to the yak up front.
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Post by SEAJUNKY on Dec 6, 2008 21:25:42 GMT -1
Hi Rob
I think to be held in a current by the ankle would make it very difficult to try and turn round and swim back to the kayak. On the other hand would it be better to attach yourself by the upper body somehow, at least then you would be facing the kayak in the current,
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