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Post by rzaskar on Aug 18, 2006 7:50:53 GMT -1
I need a bit of george yay or nay advice. The old dear has offered to buy me some yak clothing for my bday and I was wondering what to go for. I have been planning on getting a wet suit but is it the right thing to go for? I have read some where that a wetsuit works on the priciple of keeping a thin layer of water between the body and suit and this is what keeps you warm. I have also read that since you SHOULD be on the yak most of the time and NOT be in the water that a wet suit might not be the best thing to use in the yak. I was thinking of of maybe getting a cag and a pair of neopreane trousers instead. So george and any one else what have you found to be the best system for yakking, cag with neopreane trouser, cag with wetsuit? etc etc HELP im lost with it all Thanks Rich
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Post by george on Aug 18, 2006 9:40:39 GMT -1
you will get a lot of advice on this one raz so for the time being even though have my kit which i'm happy with- it may be good to let members have a say on it as you may find various views comming forward - it should be interesting to see what kit various people have settled on after a bit of experience. there is of course the issue of summer and winter kit as the long winter is comming ( sorry about that) so we might have to persuade mum to dig a bit deeper ( its all in a cause) Watch this space- just dont rush it mate wait for the various reads you will get and try and decide whats best for you- the good stuff isn't cheap so its worth a bit of consideration before you buy.
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Post by rzaskar on Aug 18, 2006 10:07:20 GMT -1
ThatS it mate, I dont want to do the old buy cheap buy twice routine and would appreiate any advice so I can get it right first time and so i dont end up with various bits of expensive clothing that I never use. Although a wet suit looks fine for summer I think a bit more is going to be need for winter, and like you said the long winter will be upon us soon so may as well get kitted out ready for it . Im up in manchester this weekend so mite try and get over to brook banks, failing that Ill be paying surf lines in Llanberis a vist next week
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Post by ZEBRA on Aug 18, 2006 10:26:06 GMT -1
I use a long john wetsuit and a spray top the idea is its easy to get on and off and in winter I can add a woolly jumper under the spray top, on my feet I use neoprene boots and over them I have a pair of sport sandals there are many choices available its just a case of finding the best thing that suits you its probably the hardest thing to sort out with the yak fishing remember overheating is just as bad as under heating the only thing I have found is your feet do get cold in the winter mostly because when you launch your boat your feet get wet and stay wet so they get cold during last winter I fished moelfre one day and the water in my water bottle froze while I was fishing but the only thing that was cold on me was my feet if I could find a way to keep my feet dry then cold would not be a problem .I have tried many different things in the past dry tops ect I found that I sweated a lot in the dry kit which made it uncomfortable to fish in also dry tops and pants have a rubber cuff to keep the water out which I found irritated my skin I also had trouble getting out of the dry kit at the end of the day
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Post by martinw on Aug 18, 2006 10:59:38 GMT -1
This is a tough one mate. this is how Ive started and ended up! before getting my yak i had a full length wetsuit anyway, £30 from asda and its still going well over a year down the line. when i first started i wore my wetsuit, pfd, splash/windproof sailing jacket, neoprene gloves and boots. that did me a treat through the winter, now however Ive also got a dry cag and pants that cost me just short of £300 from surf lines. To be honest I'm not too impressed with them, i was under the impression when i got them that they were totally waterproof, but however they do let water in if you take a dunk or two. The reason i got them was i liked the thought of putting them on over my clothes and staying dry, after all seeing the others wearing them on the meets and coming out dry was quite appealing!! This is what i do! if i know I'm going to get wet doing safety drills on a meet i will wear my wetsuit because i know the dry kit will leak with a good few dunks, But if i go on a meet and i know I'm staying dry that day i will put my dry kit on, but again this morning and the second half of the day down at pwllheli i just had my dry pants on and neoprene boots and just wore a cotton fishing smock under my pfd. Wearing just the dry pants and neoprene boots i was kept dry while launching and sitting in the yak, then when you come back in its just a case of pull off the dry pants and boots, dry your feet and put your shoes on, simple! I think if was starting over again and i had to choose my kit it would go something like this; * pfd (you've got) * neoprene boots witha good sole, (i payed £30 from Dickie's) * wetsuit, full length ( Doesn't have to break the bank) * Dry pants with rubber seals on ankles * splash/ windproof sailing smock. A good place to look for things like the sailing smock is Dickie's in Bangor, they have always got a sale rail there with last seasons kit, Ive had a few bargains. The dry pants are something i would defiantly buy purely for the reasons above. The dry cag is the expensive bit and something you could possibly buy at a later date? Surf lines did me a good deal for the kit i got off them, but i did spent a small fortune. For wetsuits, don't spend big bucks on top brands, check out places like Asda, Matalan these places stock things like that for summer, at the end of the day it does the same thing whether it cost yo £30 or £130 Hope that helped you out a wee bit mate? martin
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Post by rzaskar on Aug 18, 2006 11:27:23 GMT -1
Nice 1 lads thats put me on the right track thanks . Im thinking that I will get Long John wetsuit Neopreane boots Neopreane gloves Spray top Those items seem like they not be mega expensive and will be good to start, I can also buy other items at a later date. The spray top will give me option of putting warmer layer like a fleace etc underneath and I can also wear my floatation suit salopettes over the wet suit when its cold. Brilliant lads ill let ya know how I get on. ;D Thanks Rich
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Post by kickingk on Aug 18, 2006 12:02:54 GMT -1
I've got the dry top & pants but as I found out at Pwllheli - if you haven't got the neck seal tightened up you soon fill with water when you take a dunk!! ;D Worse still when you get out the water has worked its way down and your pants end up full of it as it can't get out through the bottom seals. Regarding the cold feet thing has anyone tried the sealskinz socks or some of the breathable neoprenes?
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Post by martinw on Aug 18, 2006 12:22:24 GMT -1
Rich, ive got some neoprene gloves and to be honest i find them a pain in the butt unless you can get the ones where the finger and thumb parts fold off. Thing is ive found with them is once they are wet they can be awkward to get off and back on. I only use mine if im on the yak board where im getting drenched!!!
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Post by george on Aug 18, 2006 12:26:34 GMT -1
same basic pics of my kit Raz- got extra weight stuff for the winter - thought i would leave that out just for now. 3mm longjon wet suit neprene socks / boots/ sandals for walkng over the shingle and stone and rocks/ gloves. Cag top with rubber seals on entry points. When properly fitted it keeps the water out except a slow seepage which you allways get a small amount of. Watch the spec of these things i think you get what you pay for. Fitting is important as kickink mentioned- he also made a point about keeping your feet warm something to think about for your winter kit. I wear the kit in this post in winter its OK but i think i would like it to be warmer- last winter was tough on the feet. Good selection at brookbank- they too usually have a constant sale rack with good discounts on. Happy huntin'
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Post by rzaskar on Aug 18, 2006 12:38:35 GMT -1
Nice 1 George Think ill leave the cag for now because as you say you pay for what you get for and they are fairly expensive, ill see how I get on with the spray top. Martin I see your point about the gloves but reckon they mite be handy (do you get the pun ) for paddling out to a mark in the winter months and once I start fishing I can take them off until the paddle back ;D
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Post by ZEBRA on Aug 18, 2006 12:43:03 GMT -1
have a look at the Tourlite Hoody - Peak spray top i have used one for about 12 months now its realy good not to tight and plenty of room to move it very dry as well and the peak on the hood realy helps when it rains and dont forget to ask for your discount .i think its 15%.
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Post by george on Aug 18, 2006 13:03:36 GMT -1
told you - you would get plenty of views raz- probably more to come.
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