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Post by SEAJUNKY on Nov 18, 2010 8:20:25 GMT -1
www.examiner.com/outdoor-recreation-in-washington-dc/rerecational-fishing-limits-proposed-for-northeastRecreational fishing limits proposed for Northeast November 17th, 2010 3:50 pm ET The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has just taken some steps to regulate the catch for recreational fishing in the Northeast. For one thing, it proposed a rule on the catch of Atlantic mackerel, squid and butterfish. It is taking public comment on its proposals until December 17. The rule would reduce the amount of mackerel allotted to recreational catch. In another announcement made the same day, NOAA's Marine Fisheries Service proposed specifications for next year's catch of summer flounder, scup and black sea bass. It is taking comments on its proposal until December 2. This proposal includes a formula to divide the catch limits into recreational and commercial quotas and state-by-state and time quotas. Recreational fishing, for instance would get a proposed 40 percent of the summer flounder catch.For details, including where to send comments, see www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/fr-cont.html. Don't panic! Its the USA
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Post by gerryw on Nov 18, 2010 11:21:24 GMT -1
My blood pressure rose to well over 120psi when I started to read this 'Till I read your last line ;D Seriously though, have you come across any similar sentiments for the UK and particularly NWales? I imagine that the terms 'commercial' and 'pleasure' would need careful definition. For example the guy who lands a couple of serious bass (lucky these days) but then sells them on to a local restaurant - pleasure or commercial? It would be very interesting to know just what proportion of fish landed in the UK fall into these two categories - and compare that to the tons wasted at sea due to being undersize (yet dead - re your other post - criminal) Good post - it prompts a bit of thinking about. Gerry
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Post by izzetafox on Nov 18, 2010 12:20:56 GMT -1
Gerry, I believe the guy who sells his rod caught bass would in fact not be a commercial fisherman but a criminal. Only licensed fishermen can sell their catch,rightly so. A pleasure angler fishes catch and release or for food for his family. If he sells his catch then he should be regulated.
Personally I think regulating pleasure anglers would be way too costly to police. Terry
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Post by gerryw on Nov 18, 2010 13:53:18 GMT -1
Terry I've learnt something new there. Is it legal fact or your understanding that a fisherman who sells his catch (however small) has to be licenced and if so by whom? Don't worry, my catch record is quite low (a family talking point actually : and if I ever caught a 'saleable' fish I'd likely as not mount and preserve it for all to see.... Gerry
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Post by izzetafox on Nov 18, 2010 14:37:31 GMT -1
I believe it's the law. It definitely is with regards to bass, good thing too. Crazy thing is I catch fish but don't like them!
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Post by gerryw on Nov 18, 2010 18:56:10 GMT -1
I think I've just found the best fishing buddy in the whole world - just don't expect to get paid for them as you would be breaking the law selling them to me ;D
Gerry
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Post by izzetafox on Nov 18, 2010 20:00:09 GMT -1
You haven't seen how many fish I catch....doggies and wrasse are my speciality. Best recipe for both is ..... place a brick in a saucepan of boiling water, hen drop wrasse/doggie in. When fish begins to break up take brick out throw ater and fish away and eat brick. Sorry off topic.... I firmly believe the only regulation of pleasure catches should be as it is already..... if you are going to eat it you're OK. If you're going to sell it your are NOT OK!!! Seems fair to me. This is for sea angling only....All those bl%%dy Eastern Europeans can keep their hands off our pike, carp, perch, roach and bream. If you are looking at how effective the EA are at policing the 'taking' of fish illegally just look how many coarse fisheries have been devastated. Between immigrants and cormorants we must have seen more coarse fish killed than any pollution in the last 10 years.
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Post by gerryw on Nov 19, 2010 8:08:21 GMT -1
I agree. (I'll pass on the 'brick-au-vin' by the way)
I spent a little time in Bialystok in Poland which is very near the Russian border. A fascinating and beautiful area which frankly takes you back in time. Most farmers still use horse and cow drawn vehicles for all their needs. Whilst we tuck into turkey or duck at Christmas a typical Polish family in that area will catch the biggest carp (usually a common) possible and serve it up on the big day. It is seen as a custom and with local remote lakes seeming to be excellent breeding grounds for such large carp the locals - who are very generous - also see little wrong in this.
However, here in the UK where we have a very strict catch and return policy and where legally all waters and land is owned by someone and therefore fishing rights are bought, leased or gifted and are not taken or ignored things are very different. I have a great deal of sympathy for the owner who's fishery is devastated after years of hard graft building up its reputation and stock only to have it wiped out in one night by these people - from wherever they come from. I also don't see too much publicity about these guys being caught either which suggests that they aren't often. If this was Texas......
Back to topic.....
Along the same lines I wonder just how many night time netting activities are taking place around the North Wales coast by people who are neither licenced nor care about the damage inflicted in the area. Seajunky any stats?
Gerry
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Post by snakey1 on Dec 8, 2010 12:32:24 GMT -1
It is only illegal to sell fish without a licence if caught from a powered vessel it is not illegal to sell fish caught from the beach or from an unpowered vessel (i.e a kayak) without a licence the only exception being the sale of salmon and seatrout.
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Post by izzetafox on Dec 8, 2010 12:40:23 GMT -1
I stand corrected mate...perhaps it was wishful thinking on my part.
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