Reeco
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Post by Reeco on Feb 26, 2008 18:41:15 GMT -1
Hi All, I have two questions, one may sound silly but I would like to find the answer to the question, it's this, on top of the malibu kayaks they have holes, I think they are scupper holes that take the sea water of the top of the kayaks, if I am wrong can someone put me straight.
My question is does the water flow into the hull of the kayak if there are no scupper plugs fitted
Is it better to leave the scupper holes unbunged or bunged
I would like to fit a fishfinder to either an X Factor or a Pro Explorer how easy it to do this and does anyone know an idiots guide to doing this.
TYVM in advance. ATB. Reeco
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Post by SEAJUNKY on Feb 26, 2008 19:24:35 GMT -1
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Post by ZEBRA on Feb 26, 2008 20:35:50 GMT -1
in the rigging section their is a great post on fitting a fishfinder to the mini x .
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Post by phoenixpete on Feb 26, 2008 21:16:52 GMT -1
Hi All, I have two questions, one may sound silly but I would like to find the answer to the question, it's this, on top of the Malibu kayaks they have holes, I think they are scupper holes that take the sea water of the top of the kayaks, if I am wrong can someone put me straight. My question is does the water flow into the hull of the kayak if there are no scupper plugs fitted Is it better to leave the scupper holes unbunged or bunged I would like to fit a fish finder to either an X Factor or a Pro Explorer how easy it to do this and does anyone know an idiots guide to doing this. TYVM in advance. ATB. Reeco The scupper holes won't fill the inside of your yak mate ;D They go all the way through and are designed to keep water out of your yak. When you are paddling the water will drain away , but you will always get some come in via your paddle or from splashing so in my opinion scuppers should never be bunged because if you get a wave or just miss how much water is filling in your yak you will be in trouble sooner rather than later. They are open for a reason Question 2 Well I am an idiot so I feel qualified to help you ;D I recently purchased a Malibu pro-xplorer and am fitting a fish finder soon. Sorry haven't done it yet, but I am going to put some pictures up this week of it being done. Have bought an Eagle 242, 7.2amp hr 12vt battery,Tupperware box to put it in, (not the fish finder) ;D will silicone the transducer to the hull and that should be about it. Bought a block of mini-cell foam, cut a section out of it with a router to slot the Tupperware/battery into. Will silicone that down so I can take the battery still in it's box out for travel and charging. Fitted the anchor trolley last week and will put some pictures of that up as well. Finished the sharkey face too ;D Pete.
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Post by Reeco on Feb 26, 2008 23:06:47 GMT -1
TYVM, Steve, T and Pete, at least I now know that scupper holes are right the way through the yak lol @ me. I can understand how the water goes through but how is it kept out.
I would be very interesyed in seeing it stage by stage. ATB. Reeco
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Post by SEAJUNKY on Feb 27, 2008 17:59:59 GMT -1
Hey Reeco I know this drawing is not very technical , but have a look at the water levels. In the top drawing you will note that the water level is below the top of the scupper holes. Therefore water flows to the lowest point, this will be half way down the scupper, so very little water comes up the scupper holes, and water flows down them, making the deck in the kayak self draining. In the lower drawing, you will see the water level outside of the kayak is higher. Therefore the water level in the kayak matches the level outside. Hope this helps Steve PS please excuse the drawing
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Post by stargaizer on Feb 27, 2008 21:28:22 GMT -1
Think of the kayak as a big rubber ring.
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Reeco
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Post by Reeco on Feb 27, 2008 23:08:11 GMT -1
Hi All, Steve, TYVM for taking the time to show me the drawing it did help me understand, what makes the scupper holes self draining.
Stargaizer, TYVM for the rubber ring example, they may sound basic to you fella's but it helps newbies like me to aquire more knowledge. ATB. Reeco
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Post by SEAJUNKY on Feb 29, 2008 6:48:08 GMT -1
Hi Reeco
The water on the deck of the kayak will flow down the scuppers because the water level around the kayak, ( and in the scuppers) is lower than the deck, therefore the water will run down hill.
Some kayaks have a "wet" ride because the deck level is lower in some kayaks than others. So have another look at the lower drawing, ( take note of the deck level) Its below the surrounding water level, therefore water will lay in the kayak and not drain away, but will not get any higher, and it will always drain back to the water level around the kayak. Hope this helps.
Steve
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Reeco
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Post by Reeco on Feb 29, 2008 12:16:02 GMT -1
Hi Steve, It is good to see simple drawings that us newbies understand, sometimes we are too shy and too embarresed about asking questions, to the experienced kayaker, it's common knowledge but to me it's answers I am looking for.
Websites like this and everyone who is prepared to help us newbies out are in my humble opinion the back bone and the future of the sport / pastime. TYVM to all who have taken the time to help me. ATB. Reeco
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Post by SEAJUNKY on Feb 29, 2008 12:54:34 GMT -1
Hey reeco
You are very welcome mate. I have only been kayaking since last April, and if it wasn't for people helping me out, I wouldn't know the answers either. I do not profess to be an expert in any way shape or form, I just know a little bit more than I did last year. But I'll tell you what mate, Its great fun, and I do enjoy it.
O yea and if anybody does feel embarrassed or shy about asking a question, just pm it an admin, and we will help you if we can.
Steve
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