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Post by ehupchuck on Jul 28, 2014 7:39:24 GMT -1
In a couple of weeks me and a few friends are off to Cornwall to do a bit of fishing from our new kayaks. We've had this trip planned for ages now and intially we were intending to just fish from the rocks but some bright spark suggested getting kayaks...so we did. We've been out enough times now to get the basics down and get them set up properly and are all ready for Cornwall. So of course one night we are thinking about what species to go for etc and blue sharks get mentioned.....umm.....I bet a shark couldn't half tow you along.....  So anyway what do you chaps think is it feasible to catch blues from a kayak? To make us more stable and less likely to get tipped out sideways if/when a fish goes on a sudden run we are planning on tying the kayaks side-by-side with quick release velcro straps through the side carry handles. This will also give us more combined resistance (drag) to the fish and at least make it possible to get a good bend in the rod to tire the fish. One can of course paddle to a degree whilst the other is playing the fish. We are going to get a longish t-bar made up for unhooking so we don't have to get them too close! The only thing that's mildly worrying is that blues will come right upto a rubby dubby bag so i'm thinking it might be a better idea to just keep throwing in lumps of chum instead of having it hanging off the kayak... As for tackle we are going with 20 - 30lb rods, 30lb braid, 10/0 hooks, 175lb wire and 200lb mono rubbing leader. The reports of white tips hanging about Cornwall and biting lumps out of smaller blues is also a bit....err interesting |
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Post by ZEBRA on Aug 2, 2014 23:57:15 GMT -1
sounds interesting get loads of pictures for us all
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Post by BassNasty AKA David on Aug 3, 2014 8:06:54 GMT -1
ok....funny nobody done this before.....wonder why....
Looking forward to seeing the reports and pics
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Post by izzetafox on Aug 3, 2014 10:42:22 GMT -1
I know one of the Irish lads had a blue on a yak a few weeks ago.
Most people that try this have their yaks taken offshore by a 'mothership' that keeps a safety watch on them.
I think you idea is reasonable but distances may prohibit you catching.
Out of interest have you caught smuts and tope on a yak? If not it may be more sensible to have a little practice at taking smaller shark for a yak before taking on what could be a dangerous venture.
Terry
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Post by philpot on Aug 3, 2014 10:45:12 GMT -1
Maybe it is because I am an ole tart but I hope you change your mind. I am the first to say that I have never caught a tope and they can lead you a merry dance, ask the guys on the east coast site but to take on blue shark is mad. I really don't want to be a stick in the mud and I know I sound that way but guys, you are not even experienced kayakers so to go to an area you don't know, currents and rip you don't know, handling a large fighting and aggressive fish on a kayak that you don't know is asking for some serious trouble.
Can I suggest you at least check with some tackle dealers in the area to establish if they can put you in touch with any local kayakers. Linking kayaks side by side may not offer the safe platform you think it might, I just don't know, perhaps linking them together could prove to be a greater danger being side on to a swell or a sudden wave could put you all in the drink. There are some very experienced kayak anglers who go up to Scotland to catch giant rays and I do mean BIG, up to 200lb sort of size but these are people who I regard as the very top kayak anglers in the UK.
Research is needed I believe guys.
I hope you have a brilliant holiday and stay safe.
Phil
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Post by BassNasty AKA David on Aug 3, 2014 10:45:47 GMT -1
totally agree Terry
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Post by BassNasty AKA David on Aug 3, 2014 10:46:59 GMT -1
Absolutely Phil
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Post by jasondstub on Aug 3, 2014 11:14:57 GMT -1
It has been done like said www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pTiI197XD8Think you'll need to be 5-20 miles out for them though, more 10-20 in less you know of some where where they come in close? closer in i think your more likely to hook a into a porbeagle which is then a whole nother ball game and they are likely to attack the yak. if your still up for it, id stick away from using wire and use heavy 300-350 mono as anything BIG will bite through it.. |
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Post by ehupchuck on Aug 7, 2014 6:38:28 GMT -1
For a start i'm not into taking pictures and writing 'reports'.
Philpot - Why do you think it's 'mad' to take on blue sharks? Sure we don't know the area YET but how does anybody get to know anywhere new...you go out and try - using common sense along the way. I didn't say that the first trip out was going to be for sharks did I? The 'giant rays' you talk about presumably are skate...skate are pretty much like fighting a dustbin - quite unlike a shark!
Jasondstub - Those are some interesting points you raise. Thanks
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Post by shaun1118 on Aug 7, 2014 9:10:54 GMT -1
Hmm let me guess, why does he think your mad.
Your going miles out into a sea which you don't know, with minimal kayak fishing experience which is trouble itself never mind targeting proper sharks. The fact you boxed around the question of have you caught a Tope or smooth hounds on a kayak before would suggest you in fact haven't.
Whats the point in asking for other anglers opinions if your just going to argue with them anyway? Or where you expecting a pat on the back and being called the sports greatest pioneer? 99.9% of the time If you have to ask the question on a forum as to whether or not you can, then your just not ready.
Plus why not post reports etc, they help other members of the kayak community out or are you just one of them that like to take?
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Post by philpot on Aug 8, 2014 22:24:30 GMT -1
For a start i'm not into taking pictures and writing 'reports'. Philpot - Why do you think it's 'mad' to take on blue sharks? Sure we don't know the area YET but how does anybody get to know anywhere new...you go out and try - using common sense along the way. I didn't say that the first trip out was going to be for sharks did I? The 'giant rays' you talk about presumably are skate...skate are pretty much like fighting a dustbin - quite unlike a shark! Jasondstub - Those are some interesting points you raise. Thanks Hmm, I seem to have ruffled your feathers which I never intended so I am sorry. You asked for comments/advice but you don't want to hear what is said, I certainly don't want to offend but you and your friends are inexperienced kayak anglers and what you propose is a very tall order. If you put up a general post on this or any forum as to what is the most important thing, I suspect the answer would be YOUR SAFETY and that is what I was and am referring to. I spoke about large Skate only to illustrate that they are still a handful to get up to the surface needing a skilled kayaker, you know what, forget it. You and your friends are adults so do what you like on your holiday. Phil |
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