popeye
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Post by popeye on Mar 1, 2008 7:15:02 GMT -1
Hi all Hope Im not teaching you guys to suck eggs, ::)but, just want to mention that any first aid treatment in our situation, will be not useless, but will be friutless if we re not carrying, at least, a good form of communication, ie VHF radio and a sharp knife. As people might have heard me say before KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) Im going to put a very simple, but effective fisrt aid kit together very soon, and post a pic of it on the site. It is always a good Idea, if we all carry the same kit, as then when an incident occures, we can use the injured pesons kit and we also know exactly what each other is carrying ;D Remember ,dont put youself at risk ,and always call for help if you are in the slightest doubt Best wishes Popeye
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Post by THURSOMAN on Mar 1, 2008 14:24:43 GMT -1
Very good idea indeed. Looking forward to your valuable information on this. One thing I would really like to know about is the storage side also. What do you find is the best container etc to keep things dry?
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Post by SEAJUNKY on Mar 1, 2008 17:48:35 GMT -1
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Post by dorado on Mar 6, 2008 22:07:57 GMT -1
Sandwich box from ASDA or similar - the ones with a rubber O ring round them - they are airtight, so water isn't getting in. Just make an elastic band to go round it for security to make sure it doesn't pop open - I think they are £1.50 each.......just the job for a First Aid kit too - put a large red cross on a piece of paper and stick inside the lid - so you can see it from outside. I know First Aid should be green with white cross - but people will also recognise this instantly.
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Post by THURSOMAN on Mar 6, 2008 22:09:48 GMT -1
Good idea. Thanks guys. (;o)
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Post by popeye on Mar 9, 2008 11:04:18 GMT -1
Hi Guys As for storing your first aid kit, there are many different good ideas. As to what you use, this is a personel thing, but standardisation is a good thing, then we all know where each other keep our kit. However, it is best to keep your first aid kit close to your radio, a sharp knife and flare. I tend to keep these items on my person, strapped with tape to my right shoulder, so, should I become separated from my craft, I can be found and treated, I tend to use a minimalistic approach and carry only what I think is nessacary, We will more than likely to be treating wounds caused by a sharp or blunt instrument, which means, we are going to be dealing with open bleeding wounds, of some description, which if serious enough, can and will lead to hypothermia, dehydration, loss of limb and unconciousness, if not treated quickly and effectivley enough. As we are more than likley to be out on the water and isolated when these injuries happen. Asses the situation and injury, always call the coast guard for immediate help, no matter how trivial you may think things are, it makes them aware They can also advise and they will then be on a state or readiness, should you need them. First check the airway and state of conciousness, treat to arresst or stop bleeding and should the injured person not be breathing or having difficulty breathing, the airway always takes priority. But please, always radio for help first, it may save somones life. Zebra is arranging a meet, where I will gladly take you all through the things you need to know, and what to do. We can then all discuss what should be carried and where to keep it, also, how to use the kit and the dangers of using certain item of kit. Belive me, its easy, as long as you keep things simple ( KISS ) Hope this helps Cheers ;D Popeye
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Post by SEAJUNKY on Mar 9, 2008 18:25:11 GMT -1
Popeye (Mark) has asked me to let you know that he has had to go away on business for a week. So please don't think that you are being ignored if he doesn't get back to any of you with a reply straight away. He will answer all questions on his return.
Steve
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Post by alex on Mar 21, 2008 0:03:22 GMT -1
below is a review of a first aid kit I posted somewhere else, would be interested to hear what someone with more medical knowledge thinks of it.
I tried to think of what injuries you might get kayak fishing and decided you could get most injuries I could think of, probably safe from getting shot or burns (although I've had some serious sun burn befour). The chances of breaking anything seem fairly low but then if powerfull waves managed to smash you into some rocks it could happen.
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Post by alex on Mar 21, 2008 0:04:30 GMT -1
I’ve been spending quite a while trying to work out which of the waterproof first aid kits that are available would be the best for kayak fishing, I eventually decided on the Care plus waterproof first aid kit, and it arrived the other day. The cheapest place to get it is stores.ebay.co.uk/One-Stop-Travel-Shop where It cost £13 + P&P which is £4 cheaper than the lifesystems waterproof first aid kit which looks like the next best one. There are 2 types of dry bag that you can get, one is made of a rubberised material that is submersible the other is made from a lightweight water resistant fabric and is much less suited to kayaking, this kit comes in the good kind of dry bag & it floats! At- 5cm x 10cm x 17cm The kit is about the perfect size, it is small and light (250g) but has enough space to contain all the equipment that you would want to carry with you for an extended kayak fishing trip. The kit contains- 4 Waterproof plasters 5 x 7 cm 1 Hydrophilic bandage 300 x 5 cm 4 Sterile compress 4 Antiseptic wipes 1 Adhesive tape, non-woven 2 Gloves 1 Emergency bandage 2 Safety pins 1 Tweezers 2 Wound plaster, textile 6 x 10 cm 5 Wound plasters PE 19 x 72 mm 1 Scissors 1 Emergency blanket 2 Adhesive strips 3 Finger cots I think this is quite a good range of different first aid materials, some of the other kits I looked at seemed to just contain lots of different sized plasters and nothing else. There is a foil blanket which could be quite important given the situations you can end up in while kayak fishing, this blanket has a gold / silver colored sides which are also quite high visibility, one side keeps the heat of the sun off you keeping it cold protecting from hyperthermia while the other keeps it warm protecting from hypothermia, just make sure it’s the right way round! It says it can also be used for burns & that the Aluminised side reflects approx 80% of body temperature. There are also wound closure strips which is a good addition as really the purpose of carrying a kit like this would be to deal with injuries that actually required having something done about them rather than just sticking a plaster over the odd hole in your finger from a fish hook. The kit also contains Latex gloves, these could be quite important, their main purpose is probably so that you/someone else doesn’t get / transmit an infection when dealing with someone else’s / your blood, but they would also be handy if you needed to fix your own injury with hands covered in fishing bait. The scissors in this kit seem to be very high quality. The first aid materials are mostly sealed individually and sterile, they seem to be packaged well enough that they are unlikely to deteriorate. I had this problem with a cheap first aid kit that I used to keep in my car, a year later when I actually needed to use it, the bits I needed had deteriorated to the extent that they were useless. I’m very pleased with the kit, it does more a less everything I would expect it too, but its always good to add a few things according to what you know how to use and how you think you are most likely to get injured. Luckily there is plenty of room in the bag for extra bits so I think a triangular bandage would be a good addition, mainly because when I learnt first aid it seemed to be the thing that got used for everything. I would also add a pill bottle with some strong pain killers, Imodium, antihistamine, seasickness tablets and ibruprofen, as I think having them to hand when you needed them might allow you to keep fishing when you may otherwise have to call it a day.
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Post by THURSOMAN on Mar 21, 2008 11:13:25 GMT -1
Seems like a good kit that alex. Price seems very reasonabe also. Thanks for sharing your info there. (;o)
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Post by popeye on Mar 29, 2008 4:22:04 GMT -1
Hi all Popeye here Sorry I have not answerd some queeris in relation to first aid, as Ive been working away I am hopeing, with Terrys permission, to give a short but effective demo on Sunday 13 April at Treaudeur bay. Some things are easier to demonstrate and explain in person also I will be able to answer a few questions and hopefully I will save you all a few quid into the bargain too Best wishes Popeye
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Post by hursty on Jun 17, 2008 8:07:51 GMT -1
looks a reasonable kit but i'd add some sterile water (10ml shots) and definitely a face mask / cpr valve , along with the knowledge of how to use it ;D. I've always found one of the cloth (hate the new type) triangular bandages to be very versatile as well.
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