Hi all, My son and I are almost fully equipped and ready to go now, we're waiting on the weather like all of you, of course..... We had had one carefully planned paddle a few weeks ago when the wind dropped to 4mph. We took a lookout with us, a mate on shore in touch with us on the cheap pay as yer go Moby I bought for the job. All went well, we even caught some fish ! But I think the more you know, the more you realise you don't know.....
So, a day with a licensed coach is planned. Probably at Treadurr Bay, and probably in April The cost will probably be £70 each I'll know more of the plans for the day when I can establish some interest. James and I plus three others, maybe a couple more
when booking a course always ask to see the insurance certificate before you go don't be fobbed off with i am insured through some federation or any other body check the insurance certificate includes all participants and it should have a maximum number of participants on it. if the coach can not provide the certificate or it does not state the number of participants then don't do the course walk away .
there are too many coaches who have no qualifications or are certified by organizations who know nothing about kayaking offering coaching make sure your coach is qualified to teach you the skills needed by an organization who are qualified to give that certificate to the said coach. ie the bcu British canoe union and ask to see proof of this coaching qualification.
if your looking for a course llanberis surf lines run superb courses on the island with fully qualified coaches
Hi Martin. Simon has not been on the site since 2011. Terry and I took our courses with the BCU and this didn't go down well as we were the first kayak website to offer BCU REGISTERED COURSES. AA and Simon started courses through the angling trust. BCU would not recognise these courses. As we are not registered coaches any more you were offered a free afternoon as others have previously taken, learning basic paddling and some safety training. Personally I would have taken the freebie first but if you feel the need to spend £140 that's your prerogative. Good luck with the course. This is what you were offered with recommendations for free. zebrakayak.proboards.com/thread/6828/safety-handling-courses Steve.
I know who I would rather be shown the ropes by, zeb and Buddy. I have had the pleasure of meeting Zeb, a nicer more helpful guy you will not find. LoAds of useful information and also fitted my kayak with anchor trolley ect. Being a newbie at the time I didn't feel confident enough at the time to be drilling holes in my nice new kayak. He also offered a paddling session to show me the basics. Which is will be taking him up on when the better weather arrives. As for Buddy I haven't had the pleasure of meeting yet but I have heard nothing but praise about him and look forward to meeting him at some point. All I can say on the matter is " it's your loss"
Oops, Hornets nest or what........in my defence, I did message admin to see if I could organise something........ I have an idea it's an historical thing. I hope I haven't offended, I thought I'd try and organise an approved course and pay for the privilege, rather than try to grab a freebie...... As you were......
Not offended in the slightest Martin. I genuinely think you would learn alot more from Zeb and Buddy both on safety and the actual angling side of things. What I learnt in a few hours and brews with Zeb was priceless.
Hi Martin. Don't get me wrong. I have paddled and fished with Simon in the past. He is a very competent paddler and I have not seen anyone cast a fly better from a kayak. In the beginning the angling trust courses and the legalities Were a bit vague, that's why we stuck with the BCU. I have had no dealings with the angling trust so I cant comment on the courses or coaching qualifications. I would have done the freebie as Russ is, then booked a course if I thought I needed it. Steve
He is a competent kayak angler but his qualifications are from the Angling Development Board and as such he is only qualified to teach the angling aspect. He knows a lot more but strictly speaking he is not qualified to coach outside of the 'angling' syllabus. A BCU coach is different, he is qualified to teach the other side of things. This means he would be able to teach everything related to the actual paddling.
It is a complex situation really. You have to ask yourself what you actually need coaching for. You will find that both types of coach will informally cross the borders of their qualifications though.
He is independant. Its a good course but not recognised by the bcu.
Its a business .
The BCU one covers the costs of the course while providing no income.
The AT is seperate again. Personally an organisation that is vehemently against kayak angling would not get 1p of my money.I suspect the course content would consist of telling you where you cant fish . I like the flyer where it says..help develop angling access....ha ha ha...note it doesnt say kayak angling access as you are on your own with that one.
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